Joe The Plumber, Queers and Honkies

Joe the Plumber, while not my most favorite person in the world, certainly provides me endless entertainment.

For that reason, he can’t be all bad.

Well, that’s not completely true.

He certainly is fun though!

Most recently, Joe was hatin’ on gay people… enjoying his favorite past-time of judging others in the name of God.

My, my, my.

What a Christian thing to do.

He’s had friends, you know, in the past, who are gay… and he’s cool with them and all…

… but he’d never let those “queers” around his kids.

He even took the time to defend his use of the word “queer”, claiming it is not a slur, nothing derogatory.

It simply means “strange” or “unusual”… it’s not really really ignorant, like calling a white person a honky, for example.

Cuz that’s what gay people are, after all.

Queer.

Funny, considering good ol’ Joe is much more queer- as in strange and usual- than any gay person I’ve ever known.

I wouldn’t think twice about allowing someone who’s homosexual around my children.

No way in hell, however, is Joe the Plumber ever gettin’ anywhere near ’em.

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3 thoughts on “Joe The Plumber, Queers and Honkies

  1. He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. John 8:7

    I don’t advocate hitting someone over the head with a Bible. We as Christians should speak the truth as we know it. But, IF you are not speaking out of love then its best not to speak at all. Do not lie and put on a face pretending to speak out of love, you won’t fool anyone but yourself. Do not speak out of hate because you are not leading anyone to Christ that way.

    The truth is, none of us are without sin except the Lord.

    Jesus was taken by the Spirit into the desert to be tempted by Satan (Matthew 4) Satan lost

    Temptation is a battle that we all face in one way or another. It is not a natural thing for us to resist it. That is why it is a spiritual battle. There is something that temps us all, every person has a temptation. These temptations are for us to overcome with God’s help.

    I understand that it is much more easy to accept a sin if we pretend its not. I’ll point out gluttony as it hits home with most. Or how about lust, greed, and envy.

    I find that people suddenly act different around me when they find out I’m a Christian. They feel like they are being judged. Or perhaps I let the f-bomb fly so often they look at me like I’m a hypocrite. I’m not a hypocrite, I’m human just like everyone else. We don’t curse like drunk sailers at someones funeral do we? By we I mean everyone.

    It makes people uncomfortable when Christians wear Christianity on their sleeves. Why do this? It is not a shield that will protect you from sin. Jesus did not walk into a room of sinners and say, I’m a Christian. He said, I am Jesus Christ.

    Envoking his name does not make the sinner uncomfortable. his name makes the unrepentant sinner uncomfortable. Nobody owes repentance of sin to me, I’m not worthy of such trust. It is between that person and God.

    Now my conclusion of this long winded post is:
    For those that are homosexual, I don’t see you any different than anyone else. We are all God’s creation and he created us will free will. Why did he do this? I believe it is so we would choose him. He could have just as easy created us with no free will at all. Wouldn’t that be boring? I also understand if you don’t believe in God. I can see why it would be. There are also those that do believe. I used to be an atheist. That is not something that I am proud of however, I believe that God guided me down that road and out so that I may better understand how to lead others. If you are an atheist, I ask for your toughest question you think you could ask of a Christian or any faith for that matter.

    To the Christians:
    “Do not ever be afraid of the truth, of facing the truth, especially about yourself. Of course you are sinner – we are all sinners. Can we deny our own sins so that we may judge others? Then what can we expect from God for ourselves. Truth is our salvation. Are you to approach the pearly gates of Heaven, to be greeted by Saint Peter who does not allow you to enter until you remove that monkey on your back. You look left and right and say “What monkey?”. The habit of denying your own faults has led you to be blinded so much so that you could stare right at what everybody else sees, and not see.”Hypocrit! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye”. Matthew 7:5

    Humble self-knowledge should be preferred to all other kinds of knowledge.” Pray to God that He will open your eyes to your own faults. To shine light on them and expose them that they may be cleared from your holy temple, which is your body. For just as we cherish the holy altar of the church, we must cherish the holy body that is yours to guard. Examine yourself. And when you sin, do not beat yourself excessively, but recognize that you did sin and examine why. What was it that lead you to do that sin? This examination is between you and God only. No one need know. Even when you confess to Jesus. Do not be ignorant of the beasts that lay hidden in your heart, mind or body. Call it out and defeat it.

    Thank you for reading and hearing my post if you heard it. God is Love

  2. Hey there SpiritOfTruth-

    As always, thanks for weighin’ in.

    In general, I do agree with your comment, and have some things I’d like to add.

    I am glad to know that hitting people over the head with the Bible is not your style, but unfortunately, many people do not feel the same way you do.

    The Bible, of course, is heavy with definitions and descriptions of sins, and of what constitutes them… depending on the book one is reading at any given time, and whether it is Old Testament or New Testament, things change and things evolve.

    A few things remain pretty constant throughout, such as the need to love others, the importance of not passing judgment, the importance of helping those less fortunate than ourselves.

    These are the fundamental teachings of my church.

    There are many things that the Bible condemns- homosexuality being one of them, yes- but there are many, many more- some that we still consider sins today- others we have discounted altogether.

    We as Christians think of adultery, lying and divorce as sins… but it certainly doesn’t stop us from participating in these things. Nor are there people trying to pass laws to advocate our loss of rights as a result of, say, getting a divorce.

    When we sin, or get a divorce, or cheat on our significant other, we pray about it. We ask forgiveness, we do what we can to make amends… and we should be doing those things. We do not, however, attempt to remove fundamental rights from those who err, and lie to someone.

    There are many aspects of the Bible that we have completely disregarded, because some things, as times evolve, as people become more humane, simply become moot.

    The book of Exodus (21:7) sanctions the selling of daughters into slavery. Obviously this is something we would never consider honoring today.

    Leviticus 15:19-24 states that there is to be no contact with a woman while she is on her menstrual period. In modern times, this is absolutely ridiculous. What are we supposed to do? Risk getting slapped by asking every one we come into contact with if she currently happens to be on the rag? That’s just plain dangerous.

    Leviticus 25:44 sanctions the possession of slaves, provided they are purchased from neighboring countries. With the exception of some people who would readily make a Mexican a slave if given the opportunity, no one, obviously, is still sanctioning this practice- at least not in our country.

    Exodus 35:2 makes it clear that anyone working on the Sabbath should be put to death. I’m certain we’ve all had to work a shift or two on a Sunday, right?

    Leviticus 19:27 expressly forbids males to trim their hair, especially that around the temples. I don’t see much in the way of temple hair out there- except for some Orthodox Jews I happen to know… so… clearly, another moot law.

    Leviticus 11:6-8 states that to touch a dead pig’s skin is unclean. Does this mean all football players should wear gloves?

    Leviticus 19:19 recommends death by stoning for anyone planting two differenct crops in the same field, or for wearing garments made from two different kinds of thread.

    Leviticus 20:14 recommends burning to death any people who sleep with their inlaws. While we, as a society, don’t exactly condone this kind of behavior… it happens… it is not a capital offense in our society, nor is it a crime.

    I’m using Leviticus a lot here- simply to make a point, because Leviticus is also the book, in addition to all these other laws we no longer follow- that states homosexuality is an abomination.

    To me it is an example of over-bearing hypocrisy that so many people are willing to discount so much of what Leviticus has to say. Many of the discounted laws were considered grave enough infractions to be punishable by death. Yet we can’t bring ourselves to consider that perhaps the homosexuality statements fall into the same category as selling our daughters into slavery, or being stoned to death for wearing a cotton/polyester blend.

    Why?

    Are we really so afraid of that which we don’t understand that we are willing to continue using ancient, out-dated law- the same prinicples we are willing to ignore in every other aspect of our lives- to justify the outright abuse of those whose existence we cannot comprehend?

    The answer is yes, yes and YES.

    Modern-day research suggests that homosexuality isn’t even a choice… and my own experiences, and relationships with gay people only cement that view.

    Why is this so difficult to believe?

    I don’t know a single straight person, for example, myself included, who can say they ever made a conscious decision either to be straight or NOT to be gay.

    We are straight simply because we are.

    Period.

    Why then, is the reverse impossible?

    Even if one believes homosexuality to be a choice, and therefore a sin, to fight so hard, and to be so hateful, cruel and harsh toward fellow humans, is unacceptable. Regardless of religious affiliation, ignorance is ugly. To be actively practicing it in the name of God- a loving, forgiving entity that is as much the father of my gay friends as He is my own father, is reprehensible.

    To you, SpiritOfTruth, I know you do not hate any one group of people- be it a nationality, a race or those of a specific sexual orientation. You try to honor your God according to your beliefs… and from what I can tell, your beliefs do not include hatred and bigotry.

    Unfortunately, there are too many others out there- like our friend Joe the Plumber- who choose to use God, the same God I love dearly- as an excuse to behave the exact opposite of what the Lord would ever have us to be.

    Take care,
    C-Haze

  3. You cite some excellent examples. I understand what your getting at there. I could add a few to the list. If Christianity is to survive, its going to have to really focus on the teachings of Jesus. His words are my foundation and where I started. People have to understand what the Old Testament is and why we have the New Testament.

    I am worried about what is happening to our society as a whole. It seems there is such a hard push from one side over what they see as inequality that they are in effect pushing so hard that they may become and in some cases already are oppressive.

    Can’t we all just play nice? 🙂

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